The controversy over appointment of judges is (luckily) a spectacle that we are typically spared in Australia.
As a lawyer, and moreover one specialising in criminal law, I strongly believe that there are few things less edifying than "electing" judges.
There are probably few other decisions that should be as non-political. After all, judges are tasked with applying the laws made by the legislature. They are a separate head of government, and should be entirely divorced from the political arena.
It goes without saying that judges will make decisions that have political consequences. But there should not even be the slightest hint that any decision is coloured by an ideological perspective.
Nowhere is this unedifying spectacle more obvious than in the United States.
In the US all Supreme Court judges need to be "confirmed" by the Senate. This means that a majority of the US Senators need to vote to "confirm" an appointment made by the President.
It is a grotesque spectacle. Every decision, every on-the-record word ever uttered (and many more off the record comments) are raked over by opponents in a desperate attempt to shape the court. Abortion being the political hand-grenade that it is in the US, the justice's position on abortion alone will often define whether he or she is even nominated.
The particular power of the US Supreme Court (for reasons beyond the ambit of this post, far greater than the Australian High Court) as well as the appointment for life (as opposed to the compulsory retirement at 70 in Australia) mean that an appointment can radically affect the Court and, consequently, the country for decades to come.
All in all, it is yet another reason I am grateful to live in Australia. Here, the AG consults widely, lawyers speculate frantically, a recommendation is made by the AG to cabinet, and the cabinet makes a recommendation to Governor General.
The process in NSW is identical. The AG takes advice, and makes a recommendation. Whilst there are obviously political considerations, the process is remarkably apolitical, and whilst there will always be a wide range of views, the particular politics of an appointee are seldom in issue.
And so it should be.
Judges and Magistrates of course are human beings with their own particular prejudices, views and opinions. Some will sentence harshly in criminal matters; others will tend to find duties of care others cannot in negligence matters; still others will often accept the word of an employee over that of an employer in a work-safety case.
But the close supervision of higher courts (as well as monster egos that cannot countenance being put in their place by higher courts) mean that, as a rule, NSW courts are as predictable and reliable as could be expected from a system run by human beings.
That is why this article came as such a surprise when I saw it yesterday morning.
The article went on to say the following:
There are a few things that are just plain stupid about what Phelps has had to say, working on the assumption that he did in fact say them.
The first is the idea that we can be choosy about who we appoint as judges (and, for that matter, magistrates).
There are a very limited number of people who have the necessary ability, experience and temperament to be a judicial officer. Moreover, just about anyone good enough to be appointed a judge takes a significant pay-cut to do it (often reducing their income by as much as 75%). We simply cannot afford, if the standard of the bench is to be maintained, to start considering "political leanings".
The next assumption is that the system would be better if we did consider such matters. Firstly, as discussed above, the ideology of a judge means less than in the US. Sure, there are judges who are more conservative - but they are more to do with conservative views about the role of the judiciary, rather than conservative political leanings.
This is especially so in any court below the High Court - to suggest otherwise would betray a profound ignorance about the operation of the legal system.
The most infuriating part of this article, however, was the below:
To question the suitability of a judge based upon a client they have represented is truly disgraceful.
Firstly, as a spokesman for the AG Greg Smith noted, when one is at the bar the "cab-rank rule" applies. This means that if a person approaches you to act for them, you HAVE to take them on, as long as they can pay your fee and you have capacity.
It's the same as a queue of cabs (hence the name) - a cab doesn't get to reject a fare because they don't like the journey length, and a barrister doesn't get to reject a client because he or she finds them morally reprehensible.
There are a number of reasons for this, but the most important one is that everyone is entitled to representation. As someone practicing in criminal law myself, I understand that better than most - I represent some people who have done or are accused of doing awful things. What kind of legal system would we have if such people were not able to obtain representation but rather had to fend for themselves?
That point is the basis for my second criticism - who is to say that the fact that these barristers represented Mamdouh Habib and David Hicks tells us anything at all about the kind of judge they would be?
I know these judges only by reputation, but I can assure you that the fact they acted for these clients tells us absolutely nothing about their politics or their prejudices.
To criticise Mr Maiden on the basis that he acted for Orkopoulos is, to put it simply, gutter politics at its worst. As a barrister, Mr Maiden had no choice whatsoever when he was approached to act for Orkopoulos, and to suggest otherwise is unfair and misleading.
Finally, it is plain wrong to suggest that the previous clients of a lawyer tell us which side of the fence they will fall on when it comes to dealing with serious criminals.
There are a lot of defence lawyers I speak to who have become remarkably cynical about the stories their clients tell them. By contrast, a great number of prosecutors (who only hear the stories filtered through the lawyers) display remarkable compassion towards accused persons.
Typically a magistrate or a judge is lenient to a fault upon being appointed, and then starts to become more cynical and hard-hearted as their career drags on. That is not ideal, given that all judges would (in an ideal world) be 100% consistent and predictable, but my point is that any leniency almost always has nothing whatsoever to do with the judicial officer's background.
To suggest otherwise is grossly unfair to those judicial officers, and a concerning hat-tip to the overly politicised and frankly unpleasant judicial system in the US.
Here's hoping it is the last we hear of it.
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Sunday, April 8, 2012
Friday, March 30, 2012
Phelpsing around
Since yesterday I've been going back and forth on whether to blog about the latest Twitter adventures of @PeterPhelpsMLC.
There are a few reasons. Firstly, I've done it before. Twice, actually.
Secondly. @stilgherrian did it this morning:
His response?
Aw, shucks.
Mostly, however, what I've realised is that most people don't really care what people they have never heard of say on twitter.
Unless you're employed in politics or, like me, you have what probably amounts to an unhealthy interest in it, you probably couldn't name five members of the upper house. Heck, I'd have to think about it.
O'Farrell knows this. Either he doesn't care what Phelps does on twitter, or he knows it doesn't matter. I suppose whilst the second is true, the first probably is as well.
The interesting thing is that, as I understand it, Phelps may actually be the most genuine NSW politician on twitter - this is apparently exactly what he is like in real life. If you want, you can go read what he had to say yesterday at about 4pm and why he said it.
He saw an (admittedly pretty stupid) comment from a leftie, and decided to get stuck in.
Phelps likes running about on twitter, making trouble, and brawling with people who annoy him. He even took the chance yesterday to mock someone for being unemployed, although in fairness that someone did bring it on by calling him a "knob end".
Quite the place, twitter.
In any event, this, apparently, is the NSW upper house. Given that the voters don't seem to care either way, and O'Farrell certainly doesn't, I suppose we're stuck with it.
There are a few reasons. Firstly, I've done it before. Twice, actually.
Secondly. @stilgherrian did it this morning:
Aw, shucks.
Mostly, however, what I've realised is that most people don't really care what people they have never heard of say on twitter.
Unless you're employed in politics or, like me, you have what probably amounts to an unhealthy interest in it, you probably couldn't name five members of the upper house. Heck, I'd have to think about it.
O'Farrell knows this. Either he doesn't care what Phelps does on twitter, or he knows it doesn't matter. I suppose whilst the second is true, the first probably is as well.
The interesting thing is that, as I understand it, Phelps may actually be the most genuine NSW politician on twitter - this is apparently exactly what he is like in real life. If you want, you can go read what he had to say yesterday at about 4pm and why he said it.
He saw an (admittedly pretty stupid) comment from a leftie, and decided to get stuck in.
Phelps likes running about on twitter, making trouble, and brawling with people who annoy him. He even took the chance yesterday to mock someone for being unemployed, although in fairness that someone did bring it on by calling him a "knob end".
Quite the place, twitter.
In any event, this, apparently, is the NSW upper house. Given that the voters don't seem to care either way, and O'Farrell certainly doesn't, I suppose we're stuck with it.
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Tuesday, December 13, 2011
A Phelps of an Afternoon
So. My blog last Friday caused a bit of a stir.
Some people were supportive. Some were abusive (towards me and @Nyx2701) and were promptly unfollowed and/or blocked.
@PeterPhelpsMLC certainly hasn't been turned off twitter. He also hasn't been banned by O'Farrell, it would seem.
In any event, Phelps and I ended up sparring for a part of this afternoon. You can make what you like of the conversation - I'm just going to post it below as best I can. It did shoot off in a few different directions (as conversations on twitter are wont to do) but hopefully it makes sense.
I think my view is clear, as is his.
The conversation started out this story on the Sydney Morning Herald Website.
The story explained that Conroy had been answering questions at the National Press Club on investment in Australia. It was being broadcast on the ABC at the time. He apparently said the following:
The story wasn't particularly interesting, to me at least. He accidentally swore, he immediately realised it was inappropriate, apologised and moved on.
The fuss the Herald made about was a little ridiculous, but par for the course in a media culture where it's "all about the clicks".
In any event, @LatikaMBourke tweeted this:
Phelps replied soon after:
My response was this:
For those of you not in the know, my twitter avatar is of Jules Winnfield, a character in the brilliant Tarantino movie Pulp Fiction. Jules has, to say the least, a potty mouth.
Coming back to Peter and me:
I guess my point is this. I'm not "offended" by anything he has said. What I am is disappointed that someone who has been elected as my representative in this State's Upper House thinks that this is an appropriate way to behave.
Yes, I can unfollow him. But that's not the point. Politicians have a responsibility to act like adults and treat voters with respect.
I don't care what Peter is like in private. I've certainly heard comments about that, but it's not the point. If you want to get out there and engage with the community (which is a fantastic thing for a politician to do, in my opinion) then you'd better bring your courtesy with you.
If being polite is a little too hard, then we'd all rather you didn't bother.
Some people were supportive. Some were abusive (towards me and @Nyx2701) and were promptly unfollowed and/or blocked.
@PeterPhelpsMLC certainly hasn't been turned off twitter. He also hasn't been banned by O'Farrell, it would seem.
In any event, Phelps and I ended up sparring for a part of this afternoon. You can make what you like of the conversation - I'm just going to post it below as best I can. It did shoot off in a few different directions (as conversations on twitter are wont to do) but hopefully it makes sense.
I think my view is clear, as is his.
The conversation started out this story on the Sydney Morning Herald Website.
The story explained that Conroy had been answering questions at the National Press Club on investment in Australia. It was being broadcast on the ABC at the time. He apparently said the following:
The story wasn't particularly interesting, to me at least. He accidentally swore, he immediately realised it was inappropriate, apologised and moved on.
The fuss the Herald made about was a little ridiculous, but par for the course in a media culture where it's "all about the clicks".
In any event, @LatikaMBourke tweeted this:
Phelps replied soon after:
My response was this:
From there the conversation kinda just flowed:
A few people chimed in along the way:
Look, no doubt you have your own opinion about this conversation. Maybe you think I'm being a bit precious. I don't know.
Yes, I can unfollow him. But that's not the point. Politicians have a responsibility to act like adults and treat voters with respect.
I don't care what Peter is like in private. I've certainly heard comments about that, but it's not the point. If you want to get out there and engage with the community (which is a fantastic thing for a politician to do, in my opinion) then you'd better bring your courtesy with you.
If being polite is a little too hard, then we'd all rather you didn't bother.
Friday, December 9, 2011
A True Reflection?
Some politicians really shouldn't get involved in social media.
There are those that use networks like twitter just to broadcast things that are going on, rather than actually interacting with the community. I suppose that is better than nothing, but only just.
Then there are those politicians who don't seem to realise that when you behave on twitter like you behave in private, people notice. And it matters.
I give you @PeterPhelpsMLC.
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| Photo from his twitter page |
We've had comment on the "Libertarian support for unrestricted drug use":
I don't even understand this one:
We've had an intelligent contribution to the Global Warming debate:
There's been a little dating advice for protesters, which was generous of him:
In any event, this morning I saw this tweet and decided to say something:
More than a little disturbed by such juvenile behaviour a Member of the Legislative Council, I tweeted the following:
Subsequently, several people including Penny Sharpe (Labor MLC) have claimed that it is a real account.
A good friend of mine then tweeted the following:
This is what Peter had to say:
I still can't believe someone who has been elected to sit in our Upper House could be stupid enough to send that kind of tweet.
I'll leave the final word to Peter himself. This was the first tweet he sent:
Peter, clearly it would be better for all of us if you handed your BlackBerry into someone responsible. You're a disgrace.
UPDATE: I've attempted to bring this blogpost to both Peter and his staff's attention, as well as Barry O'Farrell. If I receive any comment, I'll be sure to post it here.
UPDATE 3: Barry O'Farrell just tweeted the following. It wasn't a response to me as such, but it is pretty clear what it is about.
UPDATE 4: So now this is a thing:
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| From the SMH front page |
Also, this made me laugh...
It appears that this has caused a stir....
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